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INDI Library v1.8.0 is mostly a maintenance release to fix a few bugs in several drivers.

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on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not was created by maxthebuilder

Hello,
There are mentions on the net (including official ZWO web-site and this forum) that ZWO firmware-fixed offset value for their cameras.
This is maybe true for ASCOM environment but for INDI it's not fixed (at least for my ASI294 bought less than two months ago).
I was using offset of 40 (default?) in Ekos and it was too much (shifts zero almost to the middle of the histogram). I set the offset to 16 and the histogram looks much better.
So it's certainly not fixed and can be changed (which is good).
Just reporting.
Max S.
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Nikon D5300. 180 mm f/2.8 antique Nikon lens. Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8.
AT72EDII refractor. ASI1600MC Pro. ZWO ASI294MC Pro
ZWO ASI120MC-S on ZWO 30F4 MiniScope.
SW AZ-GTi mount in EQ mode.
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Replied by yoandresmza on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

Hi Max,
I have an ASI294 too. I'm using offset of 8 (default for the ASI294 in ASCOM platform) and works fine.

Changing the subject.... Have you notice that in the information tab Image of the Ekos windows when you camera is connected, that the ADC depth parameter is 12 BITS? Is it normal for a 14 bits camera? Does this affect in some way the bit depth of the raw image?

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Replied by Herrhausen on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

yoandresmza wrote: Changing the subject.... Have you notice that in the information tab Image of the Ekos windows when you camera is connected, that the ADC depth parameter is 12 BITS? Is it normal for a 14 bits camera?


Andres,

it's 14bit (Indi nightlies) with my 294!



Oh, got it! It was different with Max' cam? Hmmm! Maybe this causes the bright raw images?
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Replied by jpaana on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

Offset is not fixed in the INDI driver and can be raised, which is useful to avoid clipping to black with many of the cameras with Sony sensors which have over-correcting dark current "reduction". ADC depth is purely informational, the data is always scaled to 16 bits by the ZWO library.
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Replied by maxthebuilder on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

@jpaana
They probably fixed the offset only in ASCOM drivers. Good that it is not fixed for INDI.
Thanks for the info on ADC depth value too!

@Andres
On my RAW ASI fits images. I think they are fine. They look pretty dark in Ekos Fits Viewer. However, when I debayer them in Fitswork they became lighter. Histograms look decent. Actually, the only reason I use Fitswork is to check histograms (also that's about the only free/good fits viewer for Windows).
On ADC depth. I never paid attention to this one. Yesterday I checked - it was 14 bit. Today I updated to the latest nightly and now it's 12 bit.
But as Jpaana mentioned - that value is purely informational.

Thanks!
Max S.
RPI 3 B+ with Stellarmate OS.
Nikon D5300. 180 mm f/2.8 antique Nikon lens. Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8.
AT72EDII refractor. ASI1600MC Pro. ZWO ASI294MC Pro
ZWO ASI120MC-S on ZWO 30F4 MiniScope.
SW AZ-GTi mount in EQ mode.
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Replied by ecloud on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

Install an ASICAP on your Win/Mac computer.
Connect your ASI camera to the computer.
Open ASICAP.
Click "More" of the properties.
Then you can load the factory default setting. And the settings are truly saved to the camera.

BTW, I see very high (95) Blue of BW default setting. Don't know why but I always keep it.
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Replied by maxthebuilder on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

Ecloud,
I have ASICAP on my Windows PC. Didn't check for the offset being fixed or not there. Maybe that's where it was fixed. I have no use for that application.
I was just reading the net and on the ZWO's official site it was stated that the offset was fixed at 50 (or 40?) for ASI294. I don't know where it was fixed and how but in INDI it's not fixed. Which is good.
Max S.
RPI 3 B+ with Stellarmate OS.
Nikon D5300. 180 mm f/2.8 antique Nikon lens. Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8.
AT72EDII refractor. ASI1600MC Pro. ZWO ASI294MC Pro
ZWO ASI120MC-S on ZWO 30F4 MiniScope.
SW AZ-GTi mount in EQ mode.
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Replied by ecloud on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

maxthebuilder wrote: Ecloud,
I have ASICAP on my Windows PC. Didn't check for the offset being fixed or not there. Maybe that's where it was fixed. I have no use for that application.
I was just reading the net and on the ZWO's official site it was stated that the offset was fixed at 50 (or 40?) for ASI294. I don't know where it was fixed and how but in INDI it's not fixed. Which is good.


The default offset by ASICAP is 8.
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Replied by yoandresmza on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

Hello Jpaana
The ASI294 can work in two ADC depth modes , 14 bits or 10 bits, changing that mode changes the "gray level" of depth and you can get 16386 or 1024 respectively, then the RAW16 format scales those levels to 16Bits (0 - 655536).
The ADC mode of 14 or 10 Bits can be selected with certain parameters in the ASCOM driver, my question is if in the INDI driver it can also be modified or it always uses the ADC 14? Mode.
Thanks
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Replied by jpaana on topic on ZWO ASI cameras offset - is it fixed or not? not

INDI driver also has control for it, HighSpeedMode on Controls page, value 0 is full ADC depth. Unfortunately the control names are not always the most descriptive, they are enumerated from the ASI SDK as they also slightly vary between cameras.
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