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Hi all, 

I was using solver on rpi 3b+, but when i run phd2 with ekos i do not have enough ram so I played a bit with config, and installed local astrometry. Local astrometry was a fail, as it uses 100% ram and cpu and freezes PI, so I wanted to return to local solver, but it falies now and I do not know why. Is there a way to reset it to defaults without full reset of ekos? 
Here is log :
2021-09-10T22:38:01 Solver Failed.2021-09-10T22:38:01 Solver was aborted, timed out, or failed, so no solution was found2021-09-10T22:34:04 Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile. . .2021-09-10T22:34:04 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++2021-09-10T22:34:04 Image width: 4056 pixels, Downsampled Image width: 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 1.16795 to 2.337482021-09-10T22:34:04 Scale range: 39.4768 to 79.0068 arcmin wide2021-09-10T22:34:04 Configuring StellarSolver2021-09-10T22:34:04 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++2021-09-10T22:34:04 Stars Found after Filtering: 502021-09-10T22:34:04 Keeping just the 50 brightest stars2021-09-10T22:34:04 Removing the stars with a/b ratios greater than 1.52021-09-10T22:34:04 Stars Found before Filtering: 5002021-09-10T22:34:02 Starting Internal StellarSolver Sextractor with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile . . .2021-09-10T22:34:02 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++2021-09-10T22:33:49 Disabling the inParallel option.2021-09-10T22:33:49 Not enough RAM is available on this system for loading the index files you have in parallel2021-09-10T22:33:49 Evaluating Installed RAM for inParallel Option. Total Size of Index files: 0.303479 GB, Installed RAM: 0.839615 GB, Free RAM: 0.110916 GB2021-09-10T22:33:49 Automatically downsampling the image by 22021-09-10T22:33:49 Image received.2021-09-10T22:33:15 Capturing image...2021-09-10T22:31:04 Solver Failed.2021-09-10T22:31:04 Solver was aborted, timed out, or failed, so no solution was found2021-09-10T22:25:10 Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile. . .2021-09-10T22:25:10 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++2021-09-10T22:25:10 Image width: 4056 pixels, Downsampled Image width: 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 1.16795 to 2.337482021-09-10T22:25:10 Scale range: 39.4768 to 79.0068 arcmin wide2021-09-10T22:25:10 Configuring StellarSolver2021-09-10T22:25:10 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++2021-09-10T22:25:10 Stars Found after Filtering: 502021-09-10T22:25:10 Keeping just the 50 brightest stars2021-09-10T22:25:10 Removing the stars with a/b ratios greater than 1.52021-09-10T22:25:10 Stars Found before Filtering: 5002021-09-10T22:24:59 Starting Internal StellarSolver Sextractor with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile . . .2021-09-10T22:24:59 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++2021-09-10T22:24:59 Disabling the inParallel option.2021-09-10T22:24:59 Not enough RAM is available on this system for loading the index files you have in parallel2021-09-10T22:24:59 Evaluating Installed RAM for inParallel Option. Total Size of Index files: 0.303479 GB, Installed RAM: 0.839615 GB, Free RAM: 0.124664 GB2021-09-10T22:24:59 Automatically downsampling the image by 22021-09-10T22:24:59 Image received.2021-09-10T22:24:35 Capturing image...2021-09-10T22:23:36 World Coordinate System (WCS) is enabled. CCD rotation must be set either manually in the CCD driver or by solving an image before proceeding to capture any further images, otherwise the WCS information may be invalid.2021-09-10T22:23:36 World Coordinate System (WCS) is enabled. CCD rotation must be set either manually in the CCD driver or by solving an image before proceeding to capture any further images, otherwise the WCS information may be invalid.2021-09-10T22:23:36 Idle.
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11 months 15 hours ago #75394

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Two buttons in settings reset them (yellow in screen shot):
  1. the „down caret“ resetting 
  2. and the button in bottom left
Did you try them already? 
If that fails, replace ~/.local/share/kstars/SavedAlignProfiles.ini with a known good version.

 
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Ok, so something is massively wrong with my EKOS/INDI
I decided ok I will. use online since there is no hope with local. First solve went good, but then it messed up my settings (FoV, FL,Focal ratio) since first successful solve no solves pass even using online nova astrometry.net,
But if I upload the image directly to nova, it gets solved in seconds.
Logs here:
 pastebin.com/eU8ERnKV

I believe EKOS is sending some self decided config that is wrong and no solver is able to solve anything with wrong information. Can I somehow disable sending of config to solvers? Let them solve it. 
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Go to 'Scale & Position' and disable hinting ("Use Scale", "Use Position")
And/or try other "Option profiles" for the Stellarsolver
openSUSE Tumbleweed KStars git INDI git
GPDX+EQMOD, CEM60EC, ASI2600/1600/290mini+EFW+EAF
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You are, my sir, genius! Solving as baby both internal and online(online little better). 

I was going mad already :)
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Will that make it do a blind solve?

Celestron Astromaster 130 on HEQ5 Pro mount, ZWO ASI224mc, 30mm guidescope with ASI120mm mini. All managed using Kstars/Ekos on RPi with Astroberry build.
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Would that do a blind solve?
Sorry for some strange reason I seem to be getting multiple posts

Celestron Astromaster 130 on HEQ5 Pro mount, ZWO ASI224mc, 30mm guidescope with ASI120mm mini. All managed using Kstars/Ekos on RPi with Astroberry build.
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Probably yes, but blind solve is much better than no solve at all. 
​​​​​​ I always use sync option and I see if solve is near my target.

Also internal solver does not work at all, but I do not care too much as online is working. 
 
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I had a similar problem when all the solvers suddenly stopped working from within Ekos. I ended up redoing all config from start with a fresh install.
Wish there was a simple way to backup all the Ekos related config at one go.

Celestron Astromaster 130 on HEQ5 Pro mount, ZWO ASI224mc, 30mm guidescope with ASI120mm mini. All managed using Kstars/Ekos on RPi with Astroberry build.
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Since astrometry.net is down, coming back to internal... Any ideas, or more detailed logs?
2022-03-20T23:20:09.146 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - Image received. Mode: "Align" Size: 6168960
[2022-03-20T23:20:10.599 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Image received."
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.405 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Automatically downsampling the image by 1"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.412 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "StellarSolver only uses the Internal SEP Sextractor since it doesn't save files to disk. Changing to Internal Star Extractor."
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.517 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Evaluating Installed RAM for inParallel Option.  Total Size of Index files: 0.303479 GB, Installed RAM: 0.775616 GB, Free RAM: 0.0499344 GB"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.522 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Not enough RAM is available on this system for loading the index files you have in parallel"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.526 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Disabling the inParallel option."
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.529 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.533 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Starting Internal StellarSolver Sextractor with the 3-LargeScaleSolving profile . . ."
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.802 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Stars Found before Filtering: 51"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.804 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Removing the stars with a/b ratios greater than 1.5"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.806 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Keeping just the 50 brightest stars"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.808 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Stars Found after Filtering: 30"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.812 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Starting 4 threads to solve on multiple scales"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.814 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Solver # 1, Low 10, High 20.625 arcminwidth"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.817 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Solver # 2, Low 20.625, High 52.5 arcminwidth"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.819 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Solver # 3, Low 52.5, High 105.625 arcminwidth"
[2022-03-20T23:20:11.822 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Solver # 4, Low 105.625, High 180 arcminwidth"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.645 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Scale range: 52.5 to 105.625 degrees wide"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.648 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Image width 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 93.1953 to 187.5"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.650 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Scale range: 20.625 to 52.5 degrees wide"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.652 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Image width 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 36.6124 to 93.1953"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.655 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.658 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 3-LargeScaleSolving profile. . ."
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.660 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Scale range: 105.625 to 180 degrees wide"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.662 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Image width 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 187.5 to 319.527"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.665 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.667 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 3-LargeScaleSolving profile. . ."
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.670 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.672 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 3-LargeScaleSolving profile. . ."
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.675 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Scale range: 10 to 20.625 degrees wide"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.678 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Image width 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 17.7515 to 36.6124"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.681 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.683 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 3-LargeScaleSolving profile. . ."
[2022-03-20T23:20:13.688 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Child solver: 4 did not solve or was aborted"
[2022-03-20T23:20:15.462 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Child solver: 3 did not solve or was aborted"
[2022-03-20T23:20:28.333 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Child solver: 2 did not solve or was aborted"
[2022-03-20T23:20:54.437 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Child solver: 1 did not solve or was aborted"
[2022-03-20T23:20:54.443 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Solver Failed."
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The button that Grimaldi posted is indeed the one to clear out any custom stuff you did and go back to default profiles. That should essentially be the same as resetting everything and starting over. Of course there are other settings for the external programs, using image scale, and using image position that make a really big difference. The good news, is that you don't really have to go digging through configuration files like we used to have to do since Stellarsolver and the local astrometry solver with stellarsolver will use the configuration you can see in the Ekos options. So there really are just a few things that can go wrong.

The typical problems I see that people have with solving is that their position or scale information is incorrect and they are trying to solve with that information. But it looks like you aren't using the info and are doing a blind solve.

If you are doing a truly blind solve and it still doesn't solve, then most likely either you don't have the right index files, or you aren't getting enough good stars in your image to solve. If you can post an image or a link in this forum, I can try to solve it and let you know what index file solved it so you can make sure you have it installed or I can let you know if there is information in the scale or position in the image that is messing it up.

However, I do think I know what is wrong here. The best profiles for solving for most people's setups are 1-Default and 4-ParallelSmallScale since I designed those for small backyard telescopes or smaller observatories. I noticed that you are using 3-LargeScaleSolving, which is the one I designed for larger fields like those captured with DSLR lenses. I made specific profiles for different setups because with that extra information it will solve much faster.
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Hi,

Thank you very much on your help.
Here is link to fits:
drive.google.com/file/d/1KbP_Q0LzngSehU1...Du/view?usp=drivesdk

I do use larg scale indeed as my scooe is 330mm FL so. i thought that is best option. I did play around with other options but maybe I had wrong combination.

I am using blind solving as I do not care much about speed, and when I gave parameters everything went haywire and not even astrometry.net worked.

I remember when I first tries stellar solver everything was perfect, and I had to mess something up :/
Here is small scale logs:
<code>2022-03-21T22:17:28 Solver Failed.
2022-03-21T22:17:28 Child solver: 3 did not solve or was aborted
2022-03-21T22:17:22 Child solver: 4 did not solve or was aborted
2022-03-21T22:17:21 Child solver: 2 did not solve or was aborted
2022-03-21T22:17:18 Child solver: 1 did not solve or was aborted
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile. . .
2022-03-21T22:17:15 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Image width 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 1.27589 to 4.57101
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Scale range: 0.71875 to 2.575 degrees wide
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile. . .
2022-03-21T22:17:15 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Image width 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 4.57101 to 10.0629
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Scale range: 2.575 to 5.66875 degrees wide
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile. . .
2022-03-21T22:17:15 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Image width 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 10.0629 to 17.7515
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Scale range: 5.66875 to 10 degrees wide
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Starting Internal StellarSolver Astrometry.net based Engine with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile. . .
2022-03-21T22:17:15 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Image width 2028 pixels; arcsec per pixel range: 0.177515 to 1.27589
2022-03-21T22:17:15 Scale range: 0.1 to 0.71875 degrees wide
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Solver # 4, Low 5.66875, High 10 arcminwidth
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Solver # 3, Low 2.575, High 5.66875 arcminwidth
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Solver # 2, Low 0.71875, High 2.575 arcminwidth
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Solver # 1, Low 0.1, High 0.71875 arcminwidth
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Starting 4 threads to solve on multiple scales
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Stars Found after Filtering: 15
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Keeping just the 15 brightest stars
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Removing the stars with a/b ratios greater than 1.5
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Stars Found before Filtering: 44
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Starting Internal StellarSolver Sextractor with the 4-SmallScaleSolving profile . . .
2022-03-21T22:17:12 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Disabling the inParallel option.
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Not enough RAM is available on this system for loading the index files you have in parallel
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Evaluating Installed RAM for inParallel Option. Total Size of Index files: 0.303479 GB, Installed RAM: 0.83849 GB, Free RAM: 0.040741 GB
2022-03-21T22:17:12 Image received.
2022-03-21T22:16:55 Capturing image... <\code>
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