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Ekos Optical Trains

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Replied by MORELLI on topic Ekos Optical Trains

Hello,

AS Ron, I would be able to edit the OT before Ekos connection. In this way you build a library of OT then you call the right one into the modules of Ekos.
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Not sure it's really possible to set the trains before connecting to indi, because it's not possible to know the real devices behind an indi driver, and that's the case with multiple device drivers. For example the ZWO drivers can detects multiple zwo cameras, but it's impossible to know before starting/connecting the driver.

Anthony.
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Replied by Jasem Mutlaq on topic Ekos Optical Trains

Correct, you must connect first before configuring the trains. This isn't going to change.
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Replied by AstroMuni on topic Ekos Optical Trains

Do the optical trains store the details like Camera name, Frame size? As the driver maybe common (eg. ZWO Camera).
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My kit: SW 130PDS on a HEQ5 Pro mount, ZWO ASI533mc Pro, 30mm guidescope with ASI120mm mini, managed using Kstars/Ekos, RPi with Stellarmate OS, ASI224mc, bits and bobs for visual observations.
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Replied by Robert Miller on topic Ekos Optical Trains

I may be having a similar problem. With the latest version of kstars-bleeding, I enter my "optical train" data including a 0.7 focal reducer. In the Alignment Module, the telescope focal length and plate solver camera parameters (which is my secondary) are correctly shown for a telescope without a reducer. The reducer value of 0.7 is also shown.

I've attempted some plate solving recently with the FR and I always get the "Not Enough Stars in the Picture" and "check FOV data" even when there are lots of stars in the frame. This function worked fine before I added the FR.
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Replied by MORELLI on topic Ekos Optical Trains

Not sure it's really possible to set the trains before connecting to indi, because it's not possible to know the real devices behind an indi driver, and that's the case with multiple device drivers. For example the ZWO drivers can detects multiple zwo cameras, but it's impossible to know before starting/connecting the driver.

But when you create à profile, you can do without starting Ekos. So what is the difference ?
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Replied by Toni Schriber on topic Ekos Optical Trains

@Robert: It could be the following bug I found while trying to work with "optical trains"!?
Seems like the calculations of the focal length are done the wrong way around, resulting in a excessive magnification, which the solver cannot handle:


FL = 2839mm/0.7 = 4050mm (wrong!) instead of FL = 2839mm*0.7= 1988mm (correct!)
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In the profile, you only specifiy drivers, not devices, this is a big difference : as I said before, if you setup your profile with the indi_asi_ccd driver, it cannot know it will detect an asi2600mm and an asi120mm before you really start the profile, so the opticaltrain UI cannot have it in its comboboxes.

Anthony
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Replied by maxthebuilder on topic Ekos Optical Trains

Optical Trains work OK for me.
But I did have a problem trying to set up a DSLR Lens - it didn't worked right for me so I ended up setting it as refractor (which worked fine).
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ZWO AM5. RST-135. AZ-GTI. HEQ5. iOptron SkyTracker.
TPO RC6. FRA400. Rokinon 135 and other lenses.
ZWO ASI2600MC. D5500 modified with UVIR clip-in filter.
ZWO ASI120MM Mini x 2. ZWO 30F4 guider. Orion 50mm guider.
ZWO EAF x 3.
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Replied by Jasem Mutlaq on topic Ekos Optical Trains

I found one issue where it saves the effective field of view in the database and it wasn't considering focal reducer. This could lead to some issues. It is now fixed in KStars 3.6.2
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Replied by Robert Miller on topic Ekos Optical Trains

Bingo.

Last night I put the scope on a well populated star area to do a plate solve. The parameters in the "Plate Solving" tab (FL, FOV of guide camera, etc) were as one would expect without a focal reducer. The value of the focal reducer (0.7) was also displayed.

Attempted a plate solve and it failed. Got the usual error message.

I tried to change the aperture and FL parameters, but they were locked. The software would allow me to change the guide camera FOV to reflect the FR. Attempted another plate solve: success. I went to another tab and when I came back to the plate solve there were parameters just like yours where it looked as if the software applied the FR in the wrong direction. However, the guide camera FOV was now correct. I did another plate solve just for verification.

I see Jasem says he has it fixed in the latest build so we can try it out.

Bob
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Replied by Bernd Limburg on topic Ekos Optical Trains

Is it possible to implement considering the focal reducer factor in 3.6.1 stable as well?

Thx, Bernd
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