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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi

1 year 1 month ago
Maxchess
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39813
Hi,
I have been successful running Indi?Ekos as Stellarmate on my RPI which sits on my Pier in my Roll off shed. I then VNC in, either from the shed or from my house. All my devices connect via a Powered USB3 Hub: Eqmod,-HEQ5, DSLR, Moonlite Focuser, Joystick, Guide CCD. It works great. BUT I now want to use a CCD camera and am finding that the USB2 ports on the RPI with files stored on the local SD card are too slow. I tried using a ZWO ASI178MC (Not Cooled) and got very severe amp glow. There is no buffer on this camera. As an experiment I connected the ASI178MC direct to my Dell XPS laptop vis USB3 to a SSD drive everyting else still via the RPI and get virtually no Ampglow.

I am considering getting the ASI 294MC Pro which ZWO says " includes a 256MB DDR3 memory buffer to help improve data transfer reliability. Additionally, the use of a memory buffer minimizes amp-glow, which is caused by the slow transfer speeds when the camera is used with a USB 2.0 port." I posted on the ZWO site to ask if this meant I would get no Amplow on my RPI. They replied that it would help but USB3 is preferred.

So my question is what should my future INDI/EKOS platform be? Maybe the ASI 294MC Pro will be OK connected to the PI. if not will running on a ROCK64 with SSD be better, or will I need a much faster machine and just run INDi/EKOS under windows on my Dell XPS?
I am very interested in anyone who has practical experience of this.

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1 year 1 month ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39814
A similar question was asked a few weeks ago. Please see this thread:

www.indilib.org/forum/ekos/5134-what-dev...nning-kstars-on.html


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ASI6200 and filter wheel with a SkyWatcher Esprit 80 ED on a SkyWatcher HEQ5-Pro
ASI1600MM-Pro Cooled and filter wheel with an 8" TS Ritchey-Chrétien on a SkyWatcher EQ6-R
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1 year 1 month ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39821
I am currently seriously considering the new Odroid-N2 as an upgrade.

INDI/KStars on Raspberry Pi 4, 4gb
Raspbian Buster with AstroPi3 script configuration
Skywatcher HEQ5 Pro Mount
Canon 600D Camera
Orion SSAG/ASI120mm @280mm Guide Scope
PHD2
Adafruit Motor Hat shield
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Startech 7 port powered USB Hub.
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1 year 1 month ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39822
Wouter,
Yes, I looked at that thread, but it did not really address the AmpGlow problem.
I know that Indi/Ekos will run on the Rock64Pro which has USB3, however reading up on the subject I have learned that USB3 performance can vary considerably and a bottleneck might be the storage device it is writing to. So I wanted to know if the Rock has solved Ampglow problems.
Similarly the ASI 294MC Pro has memory buffers, so does anyone run it on the RPI/USB2 and is it OK?
I don't want to buy the Rock if it the RPI problem goes away with the buffers or if it not fast enough.
Max

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1 year 1 month ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39827
OK just making sure. FWIW I run KStars on a MinisForum Z83-F mini-pc, which has USB3, and I use an ASI1600MM-Pro cooled. No amp glow whatsoever in my images.


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ASI6200 and filter wheel with a SkyWatcher Esprit 80 ED on a SkyWatcher HEQ5-Pro
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39830
Which spec do you have? Amazon UK lists three: 2+32GB (£99.99) ; 4+32Gb ( £107.90) 4+64GB (£129.90) , so might look at 4+32GB. Do you run windows or Ubuntu? Attraction is cheap and no setup.

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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39831
I have the 4x64 Gb because the pics of the ASI1600MM tend to be large and with exposures of 60 sec the disk tends to fill up rapidly. I run Ubuntu. No Windows in my house! Plus INDI doesn’t run on Windows haha I connect remotely via VNC from my iPad or MacBook.

ASI6200 and filter wheel with a SkyWatcher Esprit 80 ED on a SkyWatcher HEQ5-Pro
ASI1600MM-Pro Cooled and filter wheel with an 8" TS Ritchey-Chrétien on a SkyWatcher EQ6-R

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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39832
By the way, with the latest BIOS the Z83-F doesn’t boot without an HDMI device connected. A simple cable will not do the trick so I bought a few cheap HDMI to VGA converters and that works. I filed a request for reversal of this change in the BIOS via the MinisForum support email address and they replied that their developers are looking into it.

ASI6200 and filter wheel with a SkyWatcher Esprit 80 ED on a SkyWatcher HEQ5-Pro
ASI1600MM-Pro Cooled and filter wheel with an 8" TS Ritchey-Chrétien on a SkyWatcher EQ6-R

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1 year 1 month ago 1 year 1 month ago by AstroNerd.
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39835
When you guys run INdI on a device other than using Stellarmate or Astroberry on an rpi, so on the mini PC you mention, how do you get it to create a hotspot so you can connect to it in the field, (similar to SM hotspot) as I can’t find a simple way to do it.. :)

Stellarmate OS on Raspberry pi4b
Skywatcher EQ8 pro, on steel pier
Takahashi FSQ85 & Meade 8” SCT (de-forked)
Starlight Xpress SXVR H18, SXVR M25c, Lodestar x2 Guide Camera
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1 year 1 month ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39839

I am currently seriously considering the new Odroid-N2 as an upgrade.


I have been eyeing that as well. If you go for it, please let me know.

Thanks
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120 MM Skywatcher Esprit on Celestron CGX
ZWO ASI 224MC or QHY-5L-II-M for guiding
Nikon Z7 8256 x 5504, 35.9 x 23.9mm 4.34 um pixel size
Triad Ultra Quad Band Narrow Filter
1) Kstars --> Odroid-N2 Ubuntu-mate 20.04
2) StellarMate on RPI4 8G
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1 year 1 month ago 1 year 2 weeks ago by petarm. Reason: spelling
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39843
Hi astronerd, i just use this, it works like a charm. I just upgraded my compute stick today and everything works!!!

github.com/Patrick-81/NAFABox

Lots of trial and error, mainly error, but in hindsight, it was easy!!!

Takahashi FC100DF imaging scope, Orion 50mm guide scope
Skywatcher HEQ5 Pro via Wifi
QHY-163C imaging
ZWO ASI 224MC guiding
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1 year 1 month ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39849

petarm wrote: Hi astronerd, i just use this, it works like a charm. I just upgraded mu compute stick today and everything works!!!

github.com/Patrick-81/NAFABox


I looked at that but really don’t understand it... :(

Stellarmate OS on Raspberry pi4b
Skywatcher EQ8 pro, on steel pier
Takahashi FSQ85 & Meade 8” SCT (de-forked)
Starlight Xpress SXVR H18, SXVR M25c, Lodestar x2 Guide Camera
Pegasus Ultimate Hub V2 for all USB & Power
Pegasus focus motors on both scopes

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