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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi

5 months 4 weeks ago
Ron Kramer
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39986

jerry wrote:

I am currently seriously considering the new Odroid-N2 as an upgrade.


I have been eyeing that as well. If you go for it, please let me know.

Thanks
Jerry




I'd love to know if these work properly in place of the PI. STILL VERY CHEAP, 3.0... I have a 094 and each sub is 72+MB. I'd love to hear from anyone using one in our situation.

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5 months 3 weeks ago 5 months 3 weeks ago by jerry. Reason: Previous entry considered this a more constrained topic.
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39991

jerry wrote:

I am currently seriously considering the new Odroid-N2 as an upgrade.

I have been eyeing that as well. If you go for it, please let me know.

Thanks
Jerry
I'd love to know if these work properly in place of the PI. STILL VERY CHEAP, 3.0... I have a 094 and each sub is 72+MB. I'd love to hear from anyone using one in our situation.


I've placed an order. Should be interesting as my linux skills are limited. The issue of USB 3 interference with wi-fi may be problematic forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=3...1f58c4bfb1ced886b8d8

Whoops, sorry I see this is considered off-topic. I'll stop now.

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5 months 3 weeks ago 5 months 3 weeks ago by AstroNerd.
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39994
Hmmm, yes I am looking at one of there new Odroid-N2 aswell, will you guys just be using a micro SD card as on rpi or going for one of the eMMc modules..?

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5 months 3 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #39996
I think if I am changing device to get the higher speed of USB3 then it makes sense to go for emmc. The Odroid-N2 looks like a good alternative, on the plus side the emmc pre-loaded with Ubuntu, it is supplied by a UK distributor, comes whereas the Rock64pro gets shipped from Singapore. I ordered mine on May 25, it shipped express (10 days) on the 29th but has not arrived yet. The wifi links referred to above for the Odroid-N2 is worrying and in general I want a platform that works in practice not just in theory, so (back to topic) is anyone out there current using INDI/EKOS on the Odroid-N2 and if so what sort of transfer rates do you get from CCD cameras?

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5 months 3 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #40004
I wrote about the WiFi issue elsewhere , but I do not have first hand experience with it.

Ihoujin wrote: One review of the Odroid-N2 found that connecting high frequency WiFi devices to the USB3 ports can cause an instability. That includes WiFi modules and wireless keyboards and mouse.
The workaround for it for now was to connect such devices to the micro USB2 port via an OTG cable and hub.

I am currently waiting for more the bugs to be worked out in the available Linux distributions made for the Odroid-N2 before I pull the trigger on upgrading to it.


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5 months 3 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #40150

wvreeven wrote: By the way, with the latest BIOS the Z83-F doesn’t boot without an HDMI device connected. A simple cable will not do the trick so I bought a few cheap HDMI to VGA converters and that works. I filed a request for reversal of this change in the BIOS via the MinisForum support email address and they replied that their developers are looking into it.


A new BIOS was released two days ago which fixes the issue where the Z83-F wouldn't boot without an HDMI device connected :silly:

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5 months 3 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #40152
Really? I am going to receive a Z83-F Minisforum tomorrow. Bought it on an impulse.. Soon after realized that it wouldn't boot without a monitor. There are also reports about wifi issues...
Should I keep it?
I am debating between this one and odroid-n2 and RockPro64.
Which one to go with? Odroid-n2 is the newest one... Is it better?
Thanks!

wvreeven wrote:

wvreeven wrote: By the way, with the latest BIOS the Z83-F doesn’t boot without an HDMI device connected. A simple cable will not do the trick so I bought a few cheap HDMI to VGA converters and that works. I filed a request for reversal of this change in the BIOS via the MinisForum support email address and they replied that their developers are looking into it.


A new BIOS was released two days ago which fixes the issue where the Z83-F wouldn't boot without an HDMI device connected :silly:


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5 months 3 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #40153
Max,

I sent you a PM with info about the BIOS update. I agree that the wifi of the Z83-F isn't great. Occasionally it works well but most of the time it performs poorly at best. I switched to wired networking because of that. But that really is the only flaw it has. For the rest it works perfectly well. For me one compelling reason to stick with it is that it needs 12 V at 2000 mA which can easily be achieved via rechargeable batteries so I can take the device with me into the field and use Ekos there.


Clear skies, Wouter

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5 months 3 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #40197
Wouter,
Got the Miniforum Mini PC. Installed Ubuntu 18.04, configured network, etc.
Now I am stuck with VNC autostart.
X11vnc works fine when started manually but wouldn't autostart (I followed your link for instructions).
I am getting "xauth: unable to generate an authority file name" when I run [systemctl status x11vnc].
There are thread about this on inet but I was unable to fix.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

wvreeven wrote: For a VNC server I used to use vino, which is the Gnome standard VNC server but it is quite hard to properly configure in Ubuntu Mate. So I switched to x11vnc which works very well for me. I used this tutorial for how to set it up:

tecadmin.net/setup-x11vnc-server-on-ubuntu-linuxmint/

except for Step 5 (Setup AutoStart on Boot) which I replaced with the instructions given by the user "Casey" in the third comment dated January 8, 2019 at 1:55 am.

For a VNC client on both my MacBook and iPad I use RealVNC which connects to x11vnc perfectly OK.


HTH, Wouter


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RPI 3 B+ and RPI 4 B (4Gb) with Stellarmate OS.
Nikon D5300. Nikon D5500 H-a modified. 180 mm f/2.8 antique Nikon. Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8.
AT72EDII refractor. ZWO ASI294MC Pro
ZWO ASI120MC-S on ZWO 30F4 MiniScope.
SW AZ-GTi mount in EQ mode.
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5 months 3 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #40199
Oh.. Found solution - askubuntu.com/questions/1033274/ubuntu-1...gin-screen-over-vnc/
It involves switching from GDM3 authorization to LightDM but works...
Now I am to install kstars/ekos

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Nikon D5300. Nikon D5500 H-a modified. 180 mm f/2.8 antique Nikon. Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8.
AT72EDII refractor. ZWO ASI294MC Pro
ZWO ASI120MC-S on ZWO 30F4 MiniScope.
SW AZ-GTi mount in EQ mode.
iOptron SkyTracker Pro.

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5 months 3 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #40203
Glad to see you were able to fix it!

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5 months 2 weeks ago
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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi #40237
My Rock64Pro finally arrived, I have installed nearly everything including indi/EKOS and it seems to work great. Its currently sat on my pier in my OBSshed at the end of the garden. Iam powering it using a 12v converter which also powers other stuff. and I am connecting via VNC to send the note.

I will post a longer install message later, but here is the short version.
First its fast, I did speed test on the USB3 port by plugging in a fast USB3 stick. On the RPI I got a speed of 33MBS, but on the Rock64 99.8 MBS.
Both running of the SD Card, I will re-test when I install emmc memory which should be faster.

My experience of installing and running software is that I expect tasks like Astrometry, which crawls on the RPI, to be fast too. We will see.

My RockPro64:
ROCKPro64 4GB Single Board Computer $79.99
ROCKPro64 PREMIUM ALUMINUM CASING $14.99
ROCKPro64 12V 3A EU POWER SUPPLY $8.99

Total of $104 or £81 in real money, so thats 3 x the price of a comperable Pi, but no wifi. The case is really nice and incorporates a heat sink

I have since ordered:
USB Adapter for eMMC Module $4.99
64GB eMMC Module $34.95
ROCKPro64 2x2 MIMO Dual Band WIFI 802.11AC/BLUETOOTH 4.2 MODULE $15.99
So thats another $55.93 or £44.04 All of the above plus shipping from China.

Note that you need USB Adapter for eMMC Module to flash the Emmc with the operating system.

Installation was easy ish. First Pine provide a really nice SD flasher based on Echer that allows you to install the OS. I ended up installing Armbian Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Desktop. My understanding is that EKOS/INDI does not run well on Debian, the other versions of Ubuntu I tried were flakey, but this version was easy: burn to SD and load.

The next part was installing VNC server and getting it to load at boot, a little tricky, but it worked. Then Indi/EKOS loaded without problems following the Ubuntu download instructions, added AStrometery and PHD2 installed easily too.

Only real issue seems to wifi. The Rock64Pro would not recognise my old RPI wifi dongle. I have ordered another make which is armbian approved. For the moment I am hard wired over Ethernet using Powerline.

So just need to wait for a cloudless night to test, but it seems good. However the instal process does make me appreciate how stable and great value the RPI is.

Max

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