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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced

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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41585
The original Ubuntu server does not have Mate desktop but my script installs it, as well as X Windows and LightDM desktop manager.
It also uninstalls some server software which is not needed.
I intentionally did not install office stuff as it is very heavy and not needed for imaging.
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1 month 2 weeks ago
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41587
When the official image forUbuntu-mate on Raspberry Pi 4 comes out, I will probably go back to using that, since my original script should work just fine for that and I like ubuntu mate better. But I thought it would be good to take this opportunity to make a new script so that those who wish to use Raspbian can have a script that gets them up and running just as well as somebody using ubuntu mate. Plus this gives me a chance to start using and playing with the pi until that time.

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1 month 2 weeks ago
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41589
Do you really want to use 4K resolution Remote Desktop control over ethernet/wifi to control your Raspberry Pi? I would think that would take more CPU cycles, more RAM, more power, and more traffic over the network. What is gained by using remote control with 4K resolution vs. just HD resolution? Is it just more screen space or something else?

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rlancaste wrote: When the official image forUbuntu-mate on Raspberry Pi 4 comes out, I will probably go back to using that, since my original script should work just fine for that and I like ubuntu mate better. But I thought it would be good to take this opportunity to make a new script so that those who wish to use Raspbian can have a script that gets them up and running just as well as somebody using ubuntu mate. Plus this gives me a chance to start using and playing with the pi until that time.

I was also under impression that using Raspbian as a base is the best approach but the problem is that Debian, which it is based on, does not have its own PPA and using Ubunty PPA may work but may also not work. So probably the only reliable way of having latest astro software is to build it from source which in my mind is too much hassle for most people.
@rlancaste How do you install latest astro software in your script - from PPA or build it from source?

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1 month 2 weeks ago
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41591
Yes, you are correct in that the PPA on ubuntu is wonderful and installs things very quickly. That is one of the reasons I like using Ubuntu MATE better for my PIs.

But, while my script was originally designed to make it easier for me to set up a Raspberry Pi3 running Ubuntu-MATE for use in AstroPhotography, the thing that sets it apart from some of the other options is that you can run the script (or the other versions I made of it) on numerous different computers to get them set up as well. So it can get a Rock64, an ODroid C2, a standard ubuntu system, or a virtual machine all setup. (I have used it on all of these). One thing I haven't done is made a version of the script that can be run on a non-ubuntu system. Some people might like Raspbian and want to use that instead. A friend also complained awhile back that he couldn't run my script on his system because there wasn't an Ubuntu MATE image for a Tinkerboard and he wanted to use that. So I think having at least a Raspbian version would be good.

To answer your last question, my script for Raspbian builds INDI, KStars, PHD2, and INIDWebManagerApp from source. This doesn't take as long as you might think because the Raspberry Pi 4 is much faster than is predecessors. I think it probably takes about an hour to get all set up, but I didn't time it.

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1 month 2 weeks ago
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41593

rlancaste wrote: Do you really want to use 4K resolution Remote Desktop control over ethernet/wifi to control your Raspberry Pi? I would think that would take more CPU cycles, more RAM, more power, and more traffic over the network. What is gained by using remote control with 4K resolution vs. just HD resolution? Is it just more screen space or something else?


Lol, it runs perfectly fine over Remote Desktop, have you ever run just HD on a 4K monitor, it looks bloody awful, besides when you have Kstars, Ekos, INdI control panel, Phd2, all open the 4K monitor holds it all great so you can see it all without having overlapping windows or having to minimise any..
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1 month 2 weeks ago
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41594
No, I don't have a 4k monitor. And yes the extra screen space could make sense.

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1 month 2 weeks ago
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41595

rlancaste wrote: No, I don't have a 4k monitor. And yes the extra screen space could make sense.

Yes, I responded to your private message. Did you get it?


Yes thanks, i have replied...as still not sure what to do..

Stellarmate OS BETA on Raspberry pi4b
Skywatcher EQ8 pro
Meade series 5000 80mm triplet Apo & Meade 8” SCT (de-forked)
Starlight Xpress SXVR H18, SXVR M25c, Lodestar Guide Camera
Pegasus Ultimate Hub for all USB & Power
Pegasus focus motors on both scopes

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1 month 2 weeks ago 1 month 2 weeks ago by stash.
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41596
IMHO - the bottom line ,at this moment in time, is to have a "script" to enable "normal" users to easily build a fully working Kstars/Indilib etc system on a RPI4 and not worry about 4k monitors used with Remote working. Nobody really knows how long a stable and fully working Ubuntu Mate on RPI4 will be .

Astronerd has this working on his system anyway :-)

So thank you,on behalf of "normal" users, Rlancaste for your efforts.

Must admit for now I have gone with a straight forward 4gb Gigabyte Brix dual core 2807 which is about the same size as RPI but has a Sata interface (so I use SSD's) and Ubuntu Mate 19.04 works (together with Kstars/Indi/Ekos) out of the box AND can be updated simply. And not a real difference in price or performance after adding case,cooling system power supply.

RPI3 Ubuntu 16.04 / AMD desktop Kstars under Ubuntu 16.04 Mounts :azeq6 ,SWAZGoTo

RPI3 Fedora testing out on AMD desktop Fedpra 28 - running kstars 2.9.4 , Indilib 1.7.4 ?????

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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41600
I developed my script a couple of years ago. It currently should work on an ubuntu-mate system, whether on Raspberry Pi 3b, 3b+, Rock64, or Odroid C2 (and probably numerous others). When the new ubuntu-mate image is released for raspberry pi 4b, it should work for that too. So that work is already basically done. Mainly what I have been doing this week is revising it so a version should work on Raspbian as well. (I also have been going back and made some revisions to the original script as well based on new things I learned.)

My script should certainly be good out of the box for "normal" users as you describe them because they can just run the script and set it all up. But one of the key points of the script is that it can be adapted to different systems and different people's setups. I commented everything and explained in the code how you can change it to add or remove certain features. So there is nothing wrong with adapting it to work for 4k monitors for certain users. I'm not currently focused on that because I'm working on the raspbian script and revisions, but I wouldn't try to discourage people from trying to do something new or make changes. I can see how a 4k monitor option could be really great for people who have big monitors.
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1 month 2 weeks ago
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41601

rlancaste wrote: I developed my script a couple of years ago. It currently should work on an ubuntu-mate system, whether on Raspberry Pi 3b, 3b+, Rock64, or Odroid C2 (and probably numerous others). When the new ubuntu-mate image is released for raspberry pi 4b, it should work for that too. So that work is already basically done. Mainly what I have been doing this week is revising it so a version should work on Raspbian as well. (I also have been going back and made some revisions to the original script as well based on new things I learned.)

My script should certainly be good out of the box for "normal" users as you describe them because they can just run the script and set it all up. But one of the key points of the script is that it can be adapted to different systems and different people's setups. I commented everything and explained in the code how you can change it to add or remove certain features. So there is nothing wrong with adapting it to work for 4k monitors for certain users. I'm not currently focused on that because I'm working on the raspbian script and revisions, but I wouldn't try to discourage people from trying to do something new or make changes. I can see how a 4k monitor option could be really great for people who have big monitors.


Jasem has a working Stellarmate on the rpi4 now, so should not be to long...before at least a beta release...spoke to him yesterday...

Stellarmate OS BETA on Raspberry pi4b
Skywatcher EQ8 pro
Meade series 5000 80mm triplet Apo & Meade 8” SCT (de-forked)
Starlight Xpress SXVR H18, SXVR M25c, Lodestar Guide Camera
Pegasus Ultimate Hub for all USB & Power
Pegasus focus motors on both scopes

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1 month 2 weeks ago 1 month 2 weeks ago by AstroNerd.
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New Raspberry pi 4 anounced #41602

AstroNerd wrote:

rlancaste wrote: I developed my script a couple of years ago. It currently should work on an ubuntu-mate system, whether on Raspberry Pi 3b, 3b+, Rock64, or Odroid C2 (and probably numerous others). When the new ubuntu-mate image is released for raspberry pi 4b, it should work for that too. So that work is already basically done. Mainly what I have been doing this week is revising it so a version should work on Raspbian as well. (I also have been going back and made some revisions to the original script as well based on new things I learned.)

My script should certainly be good out of the box for "normal" users as you describe them because they can just run the script and set it all up. But one of the key points of the script is that it can be adapted to different systems and different people's setups. I commented everything and explained in the code how you can change it to add or remove certain features. So there is nothing wrong with adapting it to work for 4k monitors for certain users. I'm not currently focused on that because I'm working on the raspbian script and revisions, but I wouldn't try to discourage people from trying to do something new or make changes. I can see how a 4k monitor option could be really great for people who have big monitors.


Jasem has a working Stellarmate on the rpi4 now, so should not be to long...before at least a beta release...spoke to him yesterday...and he posted this earlier...


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Stellarmate OS BETA on Raspberry pi4b
Skywatcher EQ8 pro
Meade series 5000 80mm triplet Apo & Meade 8” SCT (de-forked)
Starlight Xpress SXVR H18, SXVR M25c, Lodestar Guide Camera
Pegasus Ultimate Hub for all USB & Power
Pegasus focus motors on both scopes

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