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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3

1 month 3 weeks ago
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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57725
This only occurs since KStars v. 343, not in previous versions
The error msg in the EKOS guider pane l is :
The following error occurred : unknown error.
Reconnecting to PHD2 host : localhost, port 0...
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1 month 3 weeks ago
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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57734
Using PHD2 with KStars 3.4.3 works fine for me. I see in the error message it's trying to connect on port 0. That is incorrect. It should be port 4400. In your profile editor, make sure the port number is set correctly.

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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57738
JCJ,

I have had to swap to the internal guider as although I connected I could not get it to calibrate.

This only happended after I loaded a build 3-4 days ago.

The internal guider has definately improved since I last attempted to use it but I miss some of the features of PHD2.

Paul

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1 month 3 weeks ago
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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57746
Hi, This happened to me about 3 nights ago. However, since loading the most recent nightly build, (I was using the previous nightly) it is back to normal. I had attributed it to a slightly different start up than I usually do and ended up using the internal guider )after several attempts to connect my mount) which I have to say was very good and made me wonder why I was using PhD2. Thanks to all who contributed to the improvements in the internal guider!!
Tonight I am back to PhD2 and it is all working as expected. Try loading the latest nightly build and hopefully you will have the same result.

Mike

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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57748
Mike,

There is a lot to like about the internal guider, which has come a long way since I last attempted to use it, much like the rest of Ekos.

PHD2 drift alignment is the feature I missed most, but also the ability of taking and storing multiple darks etc.

Paul

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1 month 3 weeks ago
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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57751
Hi kross, Paul + Mike,

After changing the port to 4400 and saving, it returns to 0 !

This doesn't prevent the use of PHD2 but the error remains.

When you talk about "nightly build" , you mean that you downloaded the last code and compile it ?
I'm afraid I can't do that.

I find also the new Internal Guider improvements very impressive and so easy to use. Thanks again !!!

The reason I wanted still to use PHD2 is because the GPG RA Guider asks for the Major Period . How do I get it ?

My idea was to use PHD2 : Brain / Algorithms / Predictive PEC : is Period Length (PHD2)= Major Period (EKOS) ?

Finally, I would suggest an improvement about GPG RA Guider.

This is a long dialog which needs to be scrolled . But scrolling with two fingers on a trackpad might change the fields values without notification.

This is really annoying and I suggest to inhibit that field property.

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1 month 3 weeks ago
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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57760
Hi JCJ,

If you are using a Pi with Ubuntu just put this in the terminal window and it will download and update your version to the latest nightly build.
sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mutlaqja/indinightly
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install indi-full kstars-bleeding gsc
If you want to return to a stable version the instructions are here including the instrctions for other versions of linux
indilib.org/get-indi/download-ubuntu.html

Mike

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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57761
Hey Paul,

Yep I like the drift align feature too. But usually I am time poor when imaging from my backyard so I polar align with SharpCap and a DIY "polemaster" . This takes literally less than 5 minutes and gives me 0.6 arc sec/px guiding which for my mount is as good as I ever get.
I will use drift aligning if I am imaging for a few days as it is worth the time invested and is pretty satisfying to get it spot on.
I was just amazed how much better the internal guider was, mind you the last time I attempted to use it was over 2 yrs ago. As you say EKOS refinements have really made KStars really easy to use.
It does need a feature that controls the weather though! :)
Mike

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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57765
Agree with Paul (phomer60) on drift align and dark library. There are just some instances where a drift align is highly desired. I would like to use the internal guider, but absence of drift align is an issue for me. I guess I could start with PHD2, drift align, then disconnect and switch profile to use the internal guider, but that's a pain I could avoid if Ekos included a drift align feature. I will try this dual/split config during next dark time.

@jcj: re: "The reason I wanted still to use PHD2 is because the GPG RA Guider asks for the Major Period . How do I get it ?"
Open the PHD2 Log Viewer, select a guide interval, right click in the graph and select "analyze selected raw RA". In next pop-up window, select frequency analysis button (top left). The period will be obvious. Use the mouse to mouse-over at the exact location of the major period, and see the value in the bottom left of the GUI.

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1 month 3 weeks ago
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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57781

JCJ wrote: My idea was to use PHD2 : Brain / Algorithms / Predictive PEC : is Period Length (PHD2)= Major Period (EKOS) ?


Yes, they are the same. You can copy the value from PHD2. However, Ekos will round it to the nearest whole number. That's fine.

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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57782
Hi Mike,
Thanks but I'm running macOS.

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1 month 3 weeks ago
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PHD2 can't be used as guider in KStars 3.4.3 #57812
Jean-Claude,

As Kevin has indicated, GPG RA Guiding and PHD2's Predictive PEC are the same thing pretty much. Like PHD2, you don't have to enter a period for Ekos, you can check "Estimate Period" in the settings and it will do its best to estimate it. The difference might be the initial estimates, but if you set it 200, then you'll have PHD2's default starting point. After you run for quite a while and it seems settled (e.g. after 15-20 minutes), re-open that Options page and take a look at the estimated period, At that point it's probably pretty close to your actual period, and you can just uncheck estimate period from them on.

The reason I wrote that it's best to predetermine your period is just that it will probably make your first 15 minutes of guiding quite a bit better, probably no big deal the first time you do it, but you wouldn't want to repeat that every time you start guiding.

If your mount is on this page: github.com/OpenPHDGuiding/phd2/wiki/Mount-Worm-Period-Info then the nice folks at PHD2 have already figured it out for you.

Sorry about the scrolling thing you mentioned. You don't really want to mess with any of the "advanced options" on the bottom of that page anyway. In fact, I believe if you resize that Options pop-up page, the system will remember its size, and there will be no need to scroll down anymore.

Sorry for the confusion,
Hy
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