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Unable to use Online Astrometry

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Unable to use Online Astrometry was created by Outta

As I have very long FL sometimes online astrometry is only one that will result with solving.

In astroberry it worked flawlesly ,but now when I upgraded to most recent stellarmate, it refuses to send anyting to online astrometry.

I have turned off position, scale, switched to Online Astrometry and set Built In Method for solver for Star Extraction.

Is there something I am missing?

Please check you have sufficient stars in the image, the indicated FOV is correct, and the necessary index files are installed. Enable Alignment Logging in Setup Tab -> Logs to get detailed information on the failure.
2 months 1 week ago #99104

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Replied by Hy Murveit on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

Not sure why online doesn't work, but I'll be we can get offline working.
Please post an image that you can't get to solve with the internal solver.
FWIW, I have a FOV of about 1/2 degree wide with my 10" RC and have no issues solving.

Hy
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Replied by Outta on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

nova.astrometry.net/user_images/9384399#annotated

Here it is. But I really do not mind astrometry online it takes few mins but it is 100%

[2024-02-17T22:04:10.108 CET DEBG ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - Align state changed to "In Progress"
[2024-02-17T22:04:10.111 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Capturing image..."
[2024-02-17T22:04:10.149 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C : "[DEBUG] Camera soft trigger mode "
[2024-02-17T22:04:10.150 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C : "[DEBUG] StartExposure->setexp : 25.000s "
[2024-02-17T22:04:10.175 CET INFO ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C :  "[INFO] Taking a 25 seconds frame... "
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.289 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C : "[DEBUG] Retrieved exposure data: SVBGetVideoData(SVB_SUCCESS) "
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.292 CET INFO ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C :  "[INFO] Download complete. "
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.295 CET INFO ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C :  "[INFO] Exposure done, downloading image... "
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.296 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C : "[DEBUG] Exposure complete "
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.320 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C : "[DEBUG] Uploading file. Ext: fits, Size: 16819200, sendImage? Yes, saveImage? No "
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.322 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C : "[DEBUG] BLOB transfer took 0.00023646 seconds "
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.323 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - SVBONY CCD SV705C : "[DEBUG] Upload complete "
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.556 CET DEBG ][           org.kde.kstars.indi] - Image received. Mode: "Align" Size: 16819200
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.786 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Image received."
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.819 CET INFO ][           org.kde.kstars.fits] - Saved FITS file: "/tmp/solver29d263c9816a4196b7d30a804146c8cb.fits"
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.945 CET DEBG ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - Align state changed to "In Progress"
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.956 CET INFO ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - "Solver Failed."
[2024-02-17T22:04:35.957 CET DEBG ][     org.kde.kstars.ekos.align] - Align state changed to "Failed"
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Replied by Outta on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

Here is another one
nova.astrometry.net/user_images/9384463#annotated

It is same using default 4 Small Scale solve and 1 Default
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Replied by Hy Murveit on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

Please upload these two files somewhere so I can download the fits files onto my machine.
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Replied by Outta on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

You can dowoad it from astrometry:
File Attachment:


Right click on solve.fits and click save as
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Replied by Hy Murveit on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

Did not work for me, tried that unsuccessfully before and just retried same. It says "This does not look like a FITS file". It is only 4Mb.
Please post your original file somewhere and send the link.
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Replied by Outta on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

Ooooh ok, here are they. Mind you this two might be a bit different ones as I save and manually upload all the the time to astrometry but situation is the same,

drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qmRNUa3v...MnakjalLohCGp0hD9KHt
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Replied by Hy Murveit on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

Got your two images.

I am debugging this with the FITS Viewer's solver, and you can try and reproduce my experiments.
Open the fitsviewer solver, which is documented in the KStars handbook, currently on page 169
docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/kstars/kstars/kst...f#fits-viewer-solver

I was able to solve solve2.fits with the configuration below using my align profile



and here's the Align profile I had. I didn't play around with parameters, it was the first solve I tried with it once I set "use scale" to the right value, which I found in the fits header.
(It may not be the default, you can play around with it, but I'd be surprised if there are major changes with other similar numbers.



Note that only 7 stars were found, so that is pretty few stars for a plate solve.

In the other image, solve.fits, there were only 4 stars detected and the solve failed for me, but that image is much worse quality. That is, look like there is a guiding bump or star trail (i.e. several stars are doubled). Something like that would cause solving issues.

Hy
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Replied by Outta on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

Oh yes the secondary one is very bad, as I said it was probably different than original, but online astrometry does that one as well

nova.astrometry.net/user_images/9391056#annotated

I will try your parameters, but suprise suprise, it is cloudy :)

Also, can you try using Online Astrometry as default with bad one so we can report bug to Jasem? Maybe star extraction is happening even for Online astrometry and that is why it fails?
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Replied by Hy Murveit on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

You can try the fitsviewer solver even if it is cloudy!
Use load that image into fitsviewer and solve it.

Sorry, I don't have time in the next week or two to mess with other things.
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Replied by Outta on topic Unable to use Online Astrometry

Ok that is interesting turn of events, when I click Solve on FitsViewer, whole kstars crashes. There is nothing significant in logs.

[2024-02-19T11:21:05.931 CET INFO ][ org.kde.kstars.fits] - Saved FITS file: "/tmp/solvera011eff4b132428cbf4914cd6270123c.fits"
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