I actually am at work right now so I can't actually set up the gear to do anything. I am pretty sure my issue is just a setting error based on the fact that I have had control of the guider but either changed something or something went south. I think knro's last response may have been the key I needed. I am pretty sure I set PHD2 to use the native QHY5 driver instead of INDI camera. I bet it was conflicting with the INDI conenction in Ekos to the guide camera. Hopefully tonight all will be nirvana. I will post a follow up and let you know my findings. Thanks again for all of the help. If this fails tonight, I will set teamviewer and get one of you guys to look over my settings.